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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2007, 10:37:08 PM »
Is there a way to tell from looking at it if it's lock-up? I have the 80 sedan tranny sitting on the garage floor, and can look for numbers, marks, whatever.
Pull the torque converter, the tranny input shaft will be machined if it's a lock up.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2007, 10:51:58 PM »
I'm going to show my ignorance here, but you're going to have to 'splain that to me Pack Rat. I can pull the T.C. off, but "machined" to me means it's been turned, and having never seen the inside of an auto tranny, not sure what to look for.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2007, 11:13:05 PM »
The end of the input shaft will be smooth. Found ya a picture HERE, about half way down the page.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2007, 06:53:59 AM »
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      So a question arises, wonder if the internals from the overdrive fit inside the 998 case?
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2007, 08:07:02 AM »
That I couldn't say for sure but I suspect they would be. OOPS   :o See below  :D.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2007, 08:34:31 AM »
 I was thinking of the internals from a Dakota 4x4.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2007, 08:38:07 AM »
Thanks Eaglebeek,I'll have to check,take off inspection cover and feel around,my dipstick is busted however and there are no junkyards around here that have Eagles.Guess I need a good parts car.I do know where to find one of those.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2007, 08:47:38 AM »
Sorry Eddie, not quite woke up yet. No, the internals of an over drive wouldn't fit into the 998.

Phil, I'm assuming you need just the dipstick?

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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2007, 08:53:03 AM »
Yes,I think I checked the fluid once too often,I have to pull the pan again to get the bottom part out of the tube :(.I will add a bit more Gunk trans medic today and cross my fingers ::).Did I mention I will trade for a dipstick?
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2007, 09:31:06 AM »
New dipsticks still available from www.ramblerparts.com (what's in a name?) for $9.95.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2007, 09:46:50 AM »
Ah much obliged.Everyone's arguing over the computer so I might have to check em out later
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2007, 09:38:02 PM »
I have never yet seen an Eagle 998 that had a smooth input shaft, if I understand what's being discussed. The ones I've seen are all splined. Someone once told me there were some differences internally and that LU/non-LU torque converters take different input shafts. I was under the impression that '85 and up all had LU converters but not sure now and never really was sure.  I know that a jerk at Cottman transmissions in Elmira repaired my '85 once with the wrong input shaft and T/C, just before they went out of business. Last I knew the service manager was working at of all places Eagle transmissions in Elmira but that was several years ago. hey philotomy i can't seem to find those pix.

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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2007, 10:04:50 PM »
The parts manual says non-lock up from '85 on.   The MR for '84 - '88 does not specifically mention any years but it does make a vague mention to make sure and use the correct converter as the different kinds cannot be eyeballed.  Since the MR was used by AMC mechanics I am sure they assummed they would look up the proper part in the parts manual or micro-fiche.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2007, 07:21:11 AM »
  Just seen a transmission for sale in local trading paper, says its from '83 Eagle sport, 25.00, guess I had acll about.
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Re: Torque Converters.
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2007, 07:18:57 AM »
My TSM says that lockup torque converters have a sticker on them stating same. my 85's and up have all had the sticker.

 

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