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Offline macdude443

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Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« on: September 12, 2011, 04:00:59 PM »
Does anyone know where I'd find a gasket/seal for the, apparently pretty rare, SX/4 sunroof?

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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 04:08:25 PM »
I'm also in need of the rubber grommets for the bolts.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 04:13:40 PM »
I would say check with an installer. Bolts should be easy. Gasket a little tougher. Should a universal kit available from them.



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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 10:15:16 PM »
Does anyone know where I'd find a gasket/seal for the, apparently pretty rare, SX/4 sunroof?

Thanks!

Are you talking about the glass seal or the seal to the roof?

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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 05:32:05 PM »
Glass seal.  Looks as though it is just adhered into a tray under the glass.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 05:36:45 PM »
The glass says Solarcool and is roughly 30"x15 1/4".  Weatherstrip is about a half inch smaller in diameter.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 09:33:52 PM »
If that is for sure a factory sunroof then the seal may still be available from the dodge dealer. The last time I checked they still had the seal and the glass. I will look for that part number.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 09:45:58 PM »
I'll be watching too, mine is factory , glass and hardware and trim good, but the seals are shot.

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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 10:15:11 PM »
j8134237 for the seal between the glass and frame.

j8134238 for the glass.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 10:41:48 PM »
How would I know if it is factory?  I talked to Rick at sunroofdoctor and he said that AMC got their sunroofs from a place in Ohio, possibly Wisco, and if it were factory, they don't have any seals available.  This really looks like an aftermarket sunroof to me.  It resembles a Sunmate Classic or Autoport.

Mine has two, one-bolt, finger-like pieces on the front that hold it in and a handle on the back with two bolts to raise it.  It only has one position.  The corners are a "relaxed radius".  The glass can be removed, but one must first remove a c-clip and a pin on the handle side.  The trim ring is aluminum and has a sort of push-in flexible trim piece around the bottom/interior side that meets the headliner.  There are screw-on, wedge-like pieces that must hold the top piece onto the car from the inside by pressure.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 10:51:29 PM »
j8134237 for the seal between the glass and frame.

j8134238 for the glass.

 How did you cross reference to these Jeep part numbers? The original part numbers were 813 3463 and 813 3464 respectively.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 10:57:34 PM »
How would I know if it is factory?  I talked to Rick at sunroofdoctor and he said that AMC got their sunroofs from a place in Ohio, possibly Wisco, and if it were factory, they don't have any seals available.  This really looks like an aftermarket sunroof to me.  It resembles a Sunmate Classic or Autoport.

Mine has two, one-bolt, finger-like pieces on the front that hold it in and a handle on the back with two bolts to raise it.  It only has one position.  The corners are a "relaxed radius".  The glass can be removed, but one must first remove a c-clip and a pin on the handle side.  The trim ring is aluminum and has a sort of push-in flexible trim piece around the bottom/interior side that meets the headliner.  There are screw-on, wedge-like pieces that must hold the top piece onto the car from the inside by pressure.
From your description, it sounds like a factory sunroof. The factory sunroofs were comparable to an aftermarket part. One good clue is the plain aluminum frame, many aftermarket units are black. If you could post a couple of pictures, I could confirm that you have a factory unit.
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 02:22:58 AM »
My 81 Concord had a factory bare aluminum sunroof, that is how I know this. There is an add on page for the owners manual ( I still have the manual and add on page). Later on AMC or possibly dodge started using j part numbers instead. When my sunroof got vandalized in 1999 the insurance company, glass place and all the dodge dealers swore up and down that there was no such thing and since they "knew" it was an aftermarket sunroof, thats all I got for a replacement.

About 4 years later I was involved in some office/parts counter remodeling at a local dodge dealer. They had a microfilm machine and a filing cabinet full of AMC microfilms of parts and diagrams. During the lunch break one day I looked up the sunroof diagrams and part numbers. Once I found them, took me 5 minutes, I printed them since the machine had a primitive heat impact fax like printer. This printout faded out to blank years ago but I wrote the numbers down before they completely disappeared.

That day I had the parts guys check for availability and the whole glass kit, frame/seals, hardware and the separate upper glass seal were available. I tried going after the the insurance company for my rightful replacement and got nowhere as they would have had to replace the roof, vinyl and headliner as well due to the larger replacement aftermarket one in there now from their mistake. They wrote me a cheque for $100 (my deductible back) and said that was all I was getting and if I pushed the issue further they would pull a full provincial safety on me. The aftermarket sunroof always leaked badly from day 1 and has since killed the car despite being removed and resealed many times. The factory sunroof never leaked a drop of water.
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1985 Eagle wagon, same colour as the concord (project car/daily driver)
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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 08:05:40 PM »







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Re: Sunroof Weatherstrip/Seal
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2011, 08:08:22 PM »
Please excuse the general grossness of it.
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