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Re: Thinking of a solid front axel......
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2011, 05:53:27 PM »
Alright, things are going to start happening on this very quickly, possibly even this weekend so I thought I would get your guys opinion on some off road tires. I'm just going to copy and paste my posts from another forum here so you guys can see my options.

First post:
Alright, i went to rim2rim to do some snooping and got a couple of options.

First, the Dunlop Fierce Attitude M/T's. 5 for $1575 installed and out the door.

These are 315/75 R16

I also am looking at the Nitto Mud Grappler which can only be bought, as far as i'm aware, in the US. But, it's a 35" tall in 15" rim.

That's $2205 US shipped to my door for 5, not installed though(not a big issue, as I work at a shop and can get them put on for free.)

Still, the nitto's are significantly more expensive, although I haven't found out how much i would pay if i could pick them up in Montana.

I'm just trying to figure out what's what.......... The other thought is, if i could double up my off road summer tires on this car, as winter tires on the 4runner, it would justify the price a bit more.

But how big a tires can you fit on a 3rd gen 4runner with no lift?? Maybe even with a 2 inch lift?

Edit: as a little extra info, i found that the tires on my runner are 265's, so i'm assuming 285's would be as big as you can go even with a 2" lift(thinking about the OME kit for my runner as my struts are on there last legs.) i just did the conversion as well and 285 works out to be 32.5 inch. So 33's would be absolute biggest i guess??

Second post:
Ohhhh. Good site weezle, after i got it figured out.

This just suggested to me 4 more options.

The :censored: cepek Crusher.

I have personally installed a set of these on one of the guys at my shops trucks, and they look :censored: awesome. But i'm not sure how good they would be off road, they look more like a show tire to me :P

Anyway, lookin at $1375 for a set of 5 35" on 15" rims. Not bad, but not sure if i need to ship em or not.

The :censored: cepek mud and country

Not bad, $1255 for a set of 5, but again, not sure of shipping. Same size.

The BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain KM/2

$1055 for a set of 5

And the dunlop radial mud rover

$970 for a set of 5

All of these are 35" by 12.5 by 15 and i don't know if i need to ship any of them.

As an extra note, it'll cost me $700 for me to ship any of these to calgary.

Third post:
Sorry about the amount of posting by me here, I'm just bouncing ideas right now.

And speaking of ideas, here are a few more.

I'm thinking more and more it would be a good idea to double up the use of tires on this rig. Make them both my trial tires(for now) and my winter tires for my runner.

I also learned something interesting when I was talking to fountain tire. If you have any tire size other than the size the manufacturer suggests(in other words stock) they will not warentee the tire. You would have to go to the manufacturer of the tire to get warrantee and even then it's a long shot.

So on that subject. I got a quote for 5 Duratrac's size 265/75 R16 studded, with new valve stems for $1522.40 installed with all taxes. S if i were to just get the tires studded and not installed it would be $1377 ish for 5. So a full set including spare. For 4 studded it would be $1125.01

The thing about the Duratracs, is that. First you guys all like it. And second, once I'm done with them in the summer(And it would probably only be one summer as i'd try and pick up some cheap used mud or special tire over the winter) I could put them on my 4runner and run them as a winter tire. If needed i could even studd them after summer. Save me $150

But, they are only 30.5 inch tall tires. Not all that knobby looking either if I'm honest. Although i've heard these are one of the best all round tire you can get.

Edit: i also got a quote on 5 MT/R's 31X10.5R15 with kevlar for $1441.97 installed, taxed, and out the door. Just the wheels would cost me $1320 taxed.(these, if 16" rim would fit the 4runner as well right?? Not great for the ice though.....)

I guess one more question as well. Would i need a spare?? Or should I just buy 4?? If it's dedicated trail, i'd say 5 but otherwise??

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Re: Thinking of a solid front axel......
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2011, 05:58:36 PM »
Here are some pictures of the goodyear wrangler Duratracs


And the MT/R with Kevlar


My two favorites are the Dunlop attitudes(at the top) and the Duratracs(second from the bottom)
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2000 Toyota 4runner 221,000 k's (DD)
1997 Chevy S10 180,000 k's (Project car)
1988 Mazda RX-7 248,000 k's (For Sale)
1984 AMC Eagle Wagon 192,000 k's (Project car)
1981 AMC Eagle SX/4 65,000 k's (Restoration Project)
1981 AMC Eagle SX/4 140,000 k's (Trail build)
1981 Chevy Camaro Burlineta 134,000 K's (Performance build)
1977 Ford F350 Dually with dump (farm truck project)

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Re: Thinking of a solid front axel......
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2011, 08:20:28 PM »
Did you check that jeep shop Me, You, and Kristen went to, to get her winch?

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Re: Thinking of a solid front axel......
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2011, 08:30:53 PM »
No I havent. Probably another good place to check out.
2000 Toyota 4runner 221,000 k's (DD)
1997 Chevy S10 180,000 k's (Project car)
1988 Mazda RX-7 248,000 k's (For Sale)
1984 AMC Eagle Wagon 192,000 k's (Project car)
1981 AMC Eagle SX/4 65,000 k's (Restoration Project)
1981 AMC Eagle SX/4 140,000 k's (Trail build)
1981 Chevy Camaro Burlineta 134,000 K's (Performance build)
1977 Ford F350 Dually with dump (farm truck project)

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Re: Thinking of a solid front axel......
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2011, 03:41:48 PM »
i also lifetd my eagle and went with 33 km2s but i have a question about your crossmember and tranny mount...

how did you get the crossmember to clear the front drive shaft??? im stuck on this but once i get it my eagle will be ready. any help would be appreciated.

thanks

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Re: Thinking of a solid front axel......
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2011, 03:47:54 PM »
I used a double cardone to get the right angle. To do that clearance thing. There are also offset ujoints that might do the same thing. Haven't ever used them. I heard they vibrate at speed. I know first hand they help your clearance issues however.



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