AMC Eagle Den Forum
The Shop => Project Cars => Topic started by: GRONK on October 25, 2011, 02:35:18 PM
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I picked up Tootie today to keep Bucket company. She has a grenaded engine but otherwise is in great shape. Has several options my 83 Limites doesn't. I'll get pics and info soon.
Maybe I'll put the two side by side and rig up some rope so I can ride them around like rollerskates!!! 8)
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Tootie is a fixer upper. Too nice to part out. Pics comming in a few.
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Tootie is home. Tootie has a bad ticker, but... Tootie will get a transplant.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootie1.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootieyawning.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootiestockengine.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootiestereo.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/TootieandherBritishfriend.jpg)
I may be sleeping in her tonight...."sigh"
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At least you will be sleeping in a car with an onboard air compressor. You could adjust your ride height for more comfortable sleeping - if the motor would run.
That is a very good looking ride.
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That is exactly the same car as my first Eagle. Same year, same color.
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Great score GRONK! She does look great...poor thing just needs a new heart! :)
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Beautiful Wagon! I should know, I have the same color combo. If you want to see what 31's would like on it, here ya go (minus the rear quater dent of course).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/Mick123/DSCI0904.jpg)
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Beautiful ride Mick, well done...
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Here is mine on 33's
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/rollguy/ALTREGL009.jpg)
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Thanks GRONK! There's just something about Brown wagons that looks good lifted right rollguy?
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Mick...have I already asked you about that brush guard? Cause I love it!
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Wow...that thing looks amazing!.....and hey, with a built in air compressor its like a sleep number bed.
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Tooties current sneakers
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootiewheels.jpg)
I will restore these and document.
Look at that back window
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootiesbum.jpg)
Just waiting for a set of louvers (Yup, on a Wag)
This is the reason I bought her
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/TootieFrontseats.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootierearseats.jpg)
Look at her smile
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/Tootie3.jpg)
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Tootie may get a heart transplant from bucket this winter if I can't find a good priced 4.2.
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That interior looks great...and power seats! SCORE!!
Louvers are soo cool. Will the ones from an SX/4 fit our wagon? I'd love some louvers...that would be rad!
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Nope. I'm working with a fabricator to have them made locally. I can gt them at a very fair price if I can guarantee 20 sets sold. I think I can do that. He owes me set 1 before any $$$ changes hands and any promises are made.
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the local yard with the eagles sells whole engines for $650 with exchange.
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Nope. I'm working with a fabricator to have them made locally. I can gt them at a very fair price if I can guarantee 20 sets sold. I think I can do that. He owes me set 1 before any $$$ changes hands and any promises are made.
Depending on price and look I'd be curious! Definitely keep us infromed! :hello2:
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id like some louvers for my sedan :)
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I contacted a performance shop that specialized in 4.0 and 4.2's. I'll see if we can meet up and maybe do some dealing. I think they need to start selling some 2150's to go along with their stroked 4.2's.........
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i'm not sure on how good the engines are but he will replace it within a month if it is faulty.
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Great score GRONK! She does look great...poor thing just needs a new heart! :)
Maybe he should change its name to the Tin Man!
Tootie may get a heart transplant from bucket this winter if I can't find a good priced 4.2.
I took a quick look at CList for Denver and Co Springs and was surprised there weren't any 258's listed. Usually there are a few to choose from. That's where I got my transplant from for $300.
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Hey Gronk is that speed shop in the Springs? Ive been looking all over for a place that deals in performance stuff for these engines. I had a heck of a time finding a shop to machine my block, and when I did they were reluctant. If it wasnt a ford, chevy, or mopar v8 they didnt want to touch it.
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Yeah, the guy's name is Shane. I haven't met him yet but am planning on doing so very soon to see if we can start helping eachother out.
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:o Looks like a good score body wise GRONK, good interior to boot!
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I think this will ebcome the Daily Driver once she gets a new engine and Bucket will become my play toy.
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Is Tootie a Limited? all those power options paired with the fabric seats is pretty rare.
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ok... I have to ask, what is up with the caramel Wagons and white and tan wagons and black SX/4's being so numerously running? I mean can paint make that big of a difference? :rotfl:
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Shanebo, If I read correctly they dropped the SX/4 and equiped the Wags in Sport and Limited. Could this be the Sport? I haven't sen markings either way but it has more options than my 83 limited without the leather.
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i don't see any black trim so iwould say no to it being a sport model.
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All right. Found a good VIN Decoder:
http://www.vehicleidentificationnumber.com/vin-decoder/amc-car.html (http://www.vehicleidentificationnumber.com/vin-decoder/amc-car.html)
Looks like Tootie was:
-Born in Canada
-Her mom was Americam Motors Canada Inc
-Multi-purpose Vehicle
-6258 2bbl carb
-Auto Floor Shift Full Time (Though she is a select track)
-Eagle (duh)
-4 Door station Wagon
-Base model
'm not 100% sure about 2 things though, she comes up as full time 4x4??? That's not true. also, for a bas model, she has more options than my 83 Limites minus leather. Weird....
Oh well. dems the stats. I wouldn't expect anything less from my girl Tootie.
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My '83 Limited literally has no options expect the standard leather seats for a Limited model. I got none of the other goodies.
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It seems that all the "Limited" meant was it had leather...cuz I too have seen some limiteds with zero options...other than leather that is. All those options in a base model car make tootie a pretty rare bird indeed.
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Found an engine for Tootie today. I pick it up this Sunday. Not going to do anything fancy other than check the seals and clean'er up a but before reinstalling. It's from a Jeep so MY understanding is I will have to change the oil pan out with the Eagle pan. Anything else needed? I'll definitely clean all the extra wires/vacuum lines out from under the hood and give a good scrubbing. I'm only planning on this engine to last a year or so. B then I should have something better ready to go.
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As long as its an 80 and up.
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It's from a Jeep so MY understanding is I will have to change the oil pan out with the Eagle pan. Anything else needed?
Swap the oil pump too. And swap the whole pump not just the pickup, because that won't work.
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Good call Dave!! They are different.
What year jeep is it out of?
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It's out of an 83. 180,000K (Not sure if all original or not. Has an aluminum valve cover and all the accessories.
I'll probably replace the main seal if it looks to need it and all the topical gaskets. Will add the Motorcraft and TFI distributor before reinstalling. I'll pressure wash everything and give it a good scrubbing so I can identify any issues/leaks.
I have headers and a 4bbl intake but I doubt I'll waste them on an old engine. Maybe I'll have Tooties original engine rebuilt and add them before reinstalling.
Thanks for the oil pump tip. I've never done this so it's all going to be a learning experience for me.
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I'll probably replace the main seal if it looks to need it and all the topical gaskets.
Thanks for the oil pump tip. I've never done this so it's all going to be a learning experience for me.
We swapped a Jeep engine into Pepe, and it is definitely a learning experience. Since you need to take off the oil pan anyway, I would go ahead and change the rear main seal whether it needs it or not. Its about a 15 min job when you have the engine that much apart. I would also recommend changing the timing chain and gears and front seal, another simple job while you have the engine apart. Were both engines from automatics? If not I have another important tip for you 8)
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I don't know if it's from an auto or not. Tip away kind sir.......
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I don't know if it's from an auto or not. Tip away kind sir.......
The engine we were swapping in came from a manual transmission jeep, so it came with a flywheel. When we swapped the flex plate over from the original engine, we used the bolts from the new engine, which are made for the flywheel. We didn't learn until we had the engine back in the car that the bolts for a flywheel are longer than the bolts for a flex plate. We had to disassemble the engine from the transmission to trade out to the flex plate bolts, otherwise everything would not go back together.
So, bottom line, transfer over the bolts from your original engine.
Good luck, it was a fun project putting the new engine in!
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Just ordered a set of FOB's and a 2 relay 12V receiver. I'm adding remote unlock in the drivers door and a complete all doors lock feature. Was going to make a remote start too but don't really need one and I figured it was just more wiring to mess with. The boy wants me to make it a push-button start like my K-5. We'll see.
If anyone's interested in the wiring for the remote doors, let me know and I'll document it. It's really pretty simple and for under $80, totally worth it in my opinion.
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Yeah that would be great if you could document the remote door install. I know how to do it, other than where the best place is going to be to tap into the wiring. Thanks!
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Will do. It will be a week or 2 but I'll document it and do a nice writeup.
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Was going to make a remote start too but don't really need one and I figured it was just more wiring to mess with.
Whenever I've seen the remote start units advertised, they always say they are for fuel injected cars only. Would one work on a car with a carb? Thanks.
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I believe the reasoning behind them working on fuel injection only, or at least being advertised that way, is because under most circumstances a carb needs the pedal tap before startup to set the choke and give it a squirt of fuel to prime it. Of course sometimes during warm weather and such we can get away without tapping the pedal first, but when the remote start is really nice is when it's freezing out early in the morning and they'll never start dry on a cold day.
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There was a page about using a remote start on an Eagle a while ago using a regular remote start, and then also using a remote trunk release solenoid on the throttle to prime the carb first. I don't think it was ever actually done, but I'm sure somebody could get it to work.
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I installed a remote start on my Suburban, Chevy 350 running a Motorcraft 2bbl. It worked great. I used a regular idler solenoid for priming and don't remember having any issues with it. I did add a TDM and a kill solenoid in the mix but it was a very generic remote kit.
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Tootie got her new shoes yesterday.
4 15X7" Weld Racing wheels mated with 4 Cooper Performer 215/75R15's. She looks good....
Still need to clean'em and replace the old lugs, but 'm very happy.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/IMAG0249.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/IMAG0247.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l543/ehrmannmp/Tootie/IMAG0246.jpg)
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Looks sharp! It's amazing what just wheels and tires can do to make a car look more aggressive vs old and grandma-like.
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:occasion14: Love the draglite type wheels!
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They look good in the picture but they look great in person. I got to see them up close when I took Odie down to Gronks for her new Motorcraft upgrade....by the way Gronk did you get old Ginger out to Yoder ok?
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Those wheel look nice man. I might have have to take a vacation and come check out your Eagles and have you make sure everything is installed properly on Trailer Queen.
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Any Time.....
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Tootie's new stainless steel headers arrived last night. I'm finishing up the Offy intake this weekend. I can't wait!
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That will look nice!
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Hopefully it will not only look nice but perform nice too. Tootie is getting a 4.0 head, HEI distributor and of course a Motorctaft 2150. I found a 2 stage blaster coil yesterday too that has switchable voltage at higher rpm's so I might go TFI and run a relay off of a programable tack (Instead of a shift light, I will have a coil that "ups" the voltage.
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The switchable coil is in and not going to work the way I intended it to. The 2nd (Higher voltage) stage of the coil when switched takes up to 3 cycles to charge. I will use a switch in cab and switch it before starting.
Just ordered my remanufactured 4.0 head. I'll have a 4.0 cam on its way very soon too......
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Thats awesome Gronk. Im really thinking about doing that on Odie but Id better get a stouter tranny in it first. The old SR4 would die pretty quick with any more horsepower
By the way, In the white 83 there is a brand new 4.0 fel-pro head gasket for the conversion.
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Very nice Shanebo. We still need to get together and do a title swap friend. I have the SX/4 title in my car so I'm always ready.
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Cool, Thanks Gronk! Maybe next week we can meet up.