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Offline schimke12

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Supercharger in an Eagle?
« on: July 18, 2007, 03:19:42 PM »
i was just curious, if i put a supercharger in my SX4, would that give it a lot more speed/accelaration, if so, roughly how much of a difference?  also, where would i be able to find something like that?

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2007, 12:29:54 PM »
I've been wanting a supercharger for both of my Eagles, if anybody knows where I can get one for a 151 Iron Duke or the 258  please tell me
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 02:03:12 PM »
there is one for the 4.0.. i was thinking if i did keep my 258 id put a 4.0 head on it and use the intake then i could most likely use the supercharger.. but now im looking for a v8 and i found a supercharger for that. just no turbo

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 08:26:41 PM »
i was just curious, if i put a supercharger in my SX4, would that give it a lot more speed/accelaration, if so, roughly how much of a difference?  also, where would i be able to find something like that?
try this -- http://www.gatorsuperchargers.com Hmmmm not what I thought, but it has some info.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 08:32:17 PM »
I have a book on this....just have to find it, all AMC stuff.Remember the Studes  Golden Hawk was awesome!!  OK TRY THIS !! look up 21st Century Turbo , and look in the :censored: Datson sites.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2008, 07:29:55 AM »
 gopac,
          Have you been keeping up with :censored: Datson building the supercharger from a Toro leaf blower impeller? Very interesting.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2008, 09:46:43 AM »
Found some nice piccies of a supercharged Hornet AMX

http://rides.webshots.com/album/247175212TBNlcc
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2008, 10:10:27 AM »
gopac,
          Have you been keeping up with :censored: Datson building the supercharger from a Toro leaf blower impeller? Very interesting.
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No I haven't, was unaware of it.Got a link? Sounds like AMC inginuity to  me. :)

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2008, 08:27:27 PM »
  The carb has to be tricked out too. Normally you can't pressurize the carb. the usual way would be put the carb inside a sealed box or draw air through the intake side of the turbo/super charger.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 10:57:08 AM »
http://www.avengersuperchargers.com/ look in products, they have one for the AMC/Jeep 4.0 HO. Just $4295.00 + tax/s&h. & the cost of converting to Jeep EFI.  It would work great if you're a millionaire who's into Eagles. Ha.

Doubt it would fit under the hood.

How about this: From 505 Performance. http://505performance.com/



God that's sexy. No way it could fit into an Eagle, though.

This may be a little more reasonable: http://505performance.com/Our_Turbo_System.html Still almost $4grand, though.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 02:27:04 PM »
I know FF and BR had the floorboard removed in their vehicles. AWESOME charger btw.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2009, 06:53:03 PM »
Shucks;

You can turbo and/or supercharge anything you've a mind to.

Just approach it with the correct RM (or SouthbendM, in this case) slant - lol

It's all about desire and willingness to innovate.

Check this one out...

http://turbostude.com/

Some serious ingenuity from this brother gearhead!  ;D

I recall another guy using a FIAT turbo on a Honda Goldwing some years back too.

I did an old "AK Miller" turbo kit on a 2000cc Pinto one time and used radiator caps
for adjustable blow off along with water injection to help prevent unwanted
detonation. Crude - but, it worked well enough to blow off more than one Pinto
basher - including a friends Mercedes. :)

have a great one

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 09:27:17 AM »
There are some books about super charging AMC cars.  I see them on ebay from time to time but you can buy them from a web site too.  I had it marked before my hard drive failed.  I will try to find it again.

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 11:55:28 AM »
check out Squire Turbo Systmes. with them u can turbo anything! lol

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 12:32:05 PM »
Depends a lot on your budget and native abilities;

Richard Datson's material is good and will give you a lot of
insight and food for thought.
Poor boys - like me - dig insight, inexpensive information and home brew solutions.
Check out the link to Datson's books on the above mentioned "Gator"
supercharger site. It helps too that He's a heck of a nice guy and a Studebaker/AMC fan.
If you've got the bones for "turn key" and/or low fabrication
intensive routes  :) you will find a number of vendors who can help you with
turbochargers, superchargers and fuel injection systems, etc..
In addition to Datson's 21st century turbo/supercharging book I liked
His AMC survival guide too.
My view is heavily slanted by my pocket book and some RM so keep that in mind.
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Have a great day  :)

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 06:29:44 PM »
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 10:14:00 PM »
All can think od is this blower on a 4.6 Stroker with a 5 speed. Ol' Erma would probably go fast that the body would blow clean off of the frame....

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 05:16:50 PM »
All can think od is this blower on a 4.6 Stroker with a 5 speed. Ol' Erma would probably go fast that the body would blow clean off of the frame....

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 08:18:19 PM »
Rolling chassis - or maybe running chassis.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2010, 01:40:42 AM »
I am working on an electric super charger of sorts for my SX/4.  I may go with turbo.  I will have to find the sight but there is a turbo kit that fits under the car, Will fit "any" vehicle.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2010, 07:20:24 AM »
thats the STS system thats what im planning with my eagle

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2010, 11:11:10 AM »
If you still are looking into doing a V8 setup Look at Banks turbo systems they would have everything you need to turbo a V8 and can get you some Crazy power in doing so.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 11:10:18 PM »
hey guys, check this out. not sure if itll help, but....

http://www.rawtekinc.com/Chad's%20AMC%20Eagle%20Turbo.html

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 11:22:13 PM »
thanks for the link.  It looks like they put a 4.0 head on there too.
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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2018, 07:17:00 PM »
You gotta be kidding, a super charger or a turbo in an Eagle.  Only if you're a part of the go fast crowd.  Which Eagle's are not, usually.

I remember taking an Eagle with a V-8 in it for a test drive. Way to much power, Accel, speed for safe driving.  This was in Illinois about forty miles west of Chicago.  The owner had done a really great job of putting a 360 ci into it.  He used AMC coils from a Concord, dual exhaust, and the 727 transmission.  Extremely tight fit because the engine center line in eagle's is over to the right to make room for the front differential.  The reason the car was up for sale was that the owner's son had accumulated to many speeding tickets.

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2018, 04:47:23 PM »
You do not want to add forced induction of any kind to the 151 iron duke.  The bottom end is too weak.  The iron duke's crank and rods can't handle even NA performance upgrades.  If you put in a stronger crank, possibly.  I am interested to see it either way.  I know people have been adding superchargers and turbos to 258 and 242 inline 6s for awhile and is the best way to really push them up into the high hp range but depending on the trans/transfer case combo you may be blowing those up instead.

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Re: Supercharger in an Eagle?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2019, 04:05:52 PM »
Also, if you have access to a VW/Audi/NSU EA831 from the 77-78 Gremlin, 77-79 Concord, or 79 Spirit and get a custom bell made to fit it in an eagle, it could be done.  These engine's bottom ends were turbo'ed in the Porsche 924s and they can take up to 250 hp before they require forged internals.  There are people who supercharged those engines in Porsche 924s also.  They usually start with the NA engine which the AMC version is quite close to.  Probably would have to build custom fuel injection to make it work right.  Perhaps one day I take this on.

 

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